there are so many questions that you can ask yourself about details in and surrounding the taped conversations that would only lead you to conclude that it’s the real deal. konti na lang magkakaron na ng mga military adventurists na pwedeng kumuha ng government.that said, we may need the engineers if we involve processes which require the operation of evidentiary rules. our batting average for convicting big fish is next to nil, if not nil. ewan ko ba pero nung edsa dos mukhang naloko tayo ng mga elitista simbahan at ni arroyo. palagay ko Ma’m Sheila malaki ang kontribusyon ninyo kung maipagkakaisa natin ang lahat ng media practitioners dito sa ginagawang information blockade ng sarili nating DOJ head. sinong maghahandle ng snap elections if umupo si drilon eh ang may problema eh yung comelec mismo? ang nakakatakot isipin eh sinong susunod na papasok… palagay ko hindi problema yung na wiretap si gloria eh ang problema eh nawiretap na nga siya eh dinedeny pa nya!of course the real deal is in the details of the conversation.but there are now versions of the conversations and the administration now claims that it was not gma nor “gary”. hi jobardix denials are easily spewed out but how do they explain the taped conversations and all the attendant details? they just sweep everything under the highly generalized mantle of destabilization moves. i dont begrudge people who want to go to engineers.Reports on these recordings are all over the media, anyway, and Filipinos should have access to the tapes so they can filter the information themselves, independently of media gatekeepers. We do not have the capacity to make an independent verification. I am confident, however, that expert opinion will soon be called in by both sides.This is the same reason why we often upload documents on our site. Meanwhile, before we enter the battle of the experts, here are the tapes…include the Pagcor chairman (plus jueteng gate) and you have and endless supply of election support and money for the last national election… journalist blog continues to buck government pressure INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories: continues its historic and ground-breaking providing of news and actual transcripts and files in the ongoing crisis concerning alleged taped conversations involving the President of the Philippines and official…
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and i concede we might need the engineer’s stamp of approval if a substantial number of people continue to sit on the fence.
the processes i’m talking about are legal processes where a higher bar for proof is needed. the believability character of the tapes is high without an impramatur from an engineer.
You’d expect PCIJ’s take on a news event weeks after the story breaks and it would come in a multi-page and multi-part article that would thoroughly diss… As for this version of the recording, yes, it is the same one that Samuel Ong has in his possession (he claims to have the master tape or at least one of the master tapes).
Alecks, Your version of the tapes are different from that of Malacañang’s. We can call this the Omnibus Version as it contains the entire recording made by ISAFP operatives of Commissioner Garcillano’s conversations from May 17 to June 18, 2004. There were some efforts from the Moderator of our group in regards with the spliced tapes released by Bunye.